404 Sight Not Found for March 1, 2026 - Working together

[00:00:08] Speaker A: Hello and welcome to 404. Site not found for March 1, 2026. And we're recording outside today. [00:00:18] Speaker B: It's actually nice enough to do. So we're going to enjoy this while we can because the rest of the week could be kind of gross. It's a little cloudy and there's a little bit of a breeze. Don't know if that's going to pick up, but it's actually. We originally started recording this outside. That was going to be the plan. Recorded on the porch. [00:00:35] Speaker A: Yep. [00:00:36] Speaker B: And. [00:00:36] Speaker A: And then I got kind of cold. [00:00:38] Speaker B: Then it got cold. Then life happened. And every time we do this, we say, oh, we'll be back, hopefully sooner next time. And it always ends up being a couple of months before we get back. [00:00:46] Speaker A: Yeah. So we've got a few updates. Let's see, where do we want to start? [00:00:52] Speaker B: Anyone who's been following the social media chronicles probably knows about the kitchen floor. [00:00:57] Speaker A: Yes. So in early February, we got some very cold weather. It's nothing like it is now. And our floor buckled. So what that means is not that it, like, fell in on itself, but that due to. Could be a weak glue foundation. Could be cold weather, could be tiles packed too tightly. The tiles tented, so they pushed upwards, so the pressure from the surrounding tiles pushed them up. And there is a big hump in our kitchen that we have named Humpy the hump. [00:01:31] Speaker B: Yes. And he is going to have a procedure which we have nicknamed a humpectomy. [00:01:37] Speaker A: And he was supposed to have it a while back. There's been some scheduling conflicts, but hopefully Humpy will die tomorrow. [00:01:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:45] Speaker A: Well, that just sounds real great. [00:01:46] Speaker B: It does. [00:01:47] Speaker A: Humpy will die. [00:01:49] Speaker B: So. Yeah. To anyone watching this and using transcripts, sorry if that looks all sorts of wacky because he probably doesn't know how to spell humpectomy. [00:01:58] Speaker A: Yeah. I'd be curious how it's spelled. Humpectomy. [00:02:00] Speaker B: H U M P E C T O M Y is how I've been spelling it. [00:02:06] Speaker A: I would have just said H U M P. Ectomy, but thank you. So, yeah, Humpy is gonna get de. Humped, hopefully tomorrow. [00:02:18] Speaker B: Yeah, we're gonna double check on that. [00:02:20] Speaker A: So we'll. We'll find out. I guess the other interesting thing is we went and got a ring resized for you and so went over yesterday just to get it looked at, make sure that everything was good because don't want it to fall off your finger. And it's a. A hairloom heirloom. Oh, heirloom. Okay. [00:02:40] Speaker B: Family heirlooms. From my grandma. It was something that she wore, I guess all the time before she passed. And it was something that my aunt decided to pass along to me a few years ago, like when I graduated assistive technology school and had a job and she felt in her heart that grandma would want me to have it. And it was too large for my pinky, which is where she wore it, so I wanted to wear it on there as well. And so we went to the same place that did all of our wedding set. So my engagement ring, wedding band, Liam's wedding band, and had them work on it because they are known for doing really good work. [00:03:22] Speaker A: Let's just give them a shout out. Huntington Fine Jewelry of Yukon. [00:03:27] Speaker B: Is it jewelry or jewelers? [00:03:29] Speaker A: Maybe it's jewelers, but Huntington Fine Shiny Things of Yukon, they have like six stores, I think. [00:03:38] Speaker B: Yeah, they're all kind of around the Oklahoma City Metro. [00:03:42] Speaker A: And are they good? [00:03:44] Speaker B: Yes. And we, we made a friend there pretty early on, our, our good friend Patrick. [00:03:51] Speaker A: Although you're gonna say Aaron. [00:03:54] Speaker B: No, Aaron's good people. [00:03:55] Speaker A: We like Aaron too. [00:03:56] Speaker B: We do, we do. But I think it was when we went to purchase the wedding rings. Patrick greeted us and told us to bring them back in right before the big day so that they could be nice and clean and shiny for pictures. We found out in subsequent chit chats. We went back there to get my rings soldered together, the wedding and engagement bands, and been back a few times. [00:04:22] Speaker A: And when we went back, by the way, for honor wedding, we had a little party. Yes, they had champagne for us and it was really cool. And like, they sure did got some pictures taken. [00:04:34] Speaker B: And on one of these visits we were chatting with Patrick because one of the things that they do at the store that I really like is they like to build rapport with their customers. So you do sit and do a little bit of chit chatting while you're making your purchases. And he was telling us that his wife's brother is blind. And so he, you know, kind of had some familiarity, but also had a lot of questions. And we've always kind of taken to showing him cool stuff when and where we can. So he had said something one time about, oh yeah, I know there's like these credit card sized things that you can use to sign things. And so when we went back on our wedding day, I actually had a spare one in my purse that I gave him and said here, in case we ever come back to sign. Sign things or you have another blind person that needs to sign something. Have a Signature guide on us and have used it a few times there since, such as getting this other family heirloom ring fixed. [00:05:34] Speaker A: But then we brought in something else. [00:05:37] Speaker B: Yes, we brought in something else, and [00:05:38] Speaker A: we learned a thing about Patrick. Hopefully Patrick's listening to this, by the way. Hopefully. I did probably send it to him. I'm speaking in the future, because after [00:05:47] Speaker B: this, it will probably get. [00:05:48] Speaker A: I will send him the episode. But we learned the thing about Patrick is that Patrick likes watches. [00:05:54] Speaker B: Patrick likes watches very much. And like I said, we've. We've chit. Chatted with him quite a bit, you know, might make some plans to hang out sometime. Really cool. Cool person. And I thought it might be fun to bring in. I had an old braille watch, and it was one of the mechanical ones. I. I had done some shopping on ebay years ago. I don't know if I. I don't remember why exactly I picked up this purchase. If I thought, well, maybe I'll flip them or, you know, keep one if they're cool. It was probably something like that. This was back in, I think, 2019, and my judgment wasn't always the soundest, but here we are. And so I. Yeah, I mean, he got married to me, so not in 2019, I didn't. [00:06:39] Speaker A: Also, hopefully, too. I'm gonna speak in the future. I hope that this wind is not too disruptive on the microphone phones. So if you guys are listening to this and you're like, there's wind noise. We're really sorry, but we didn't want to record inside. [00:06:49] Speaker B: Yeah, well, so we kind of forgot and started the dishwasher. And the dishwasher makes lots of, well, dishwasher noises. [00:06:57] Speaker A: It's nice out. [00:06:58] Speaker B: It is nice out. And so you may also be hearing the bamboo wind chimes that we got as a present. Yeah, it was on our registry. So the dogs? No, the wind chimes. [00:07:09] Speaker A: Okay. [00:07:10] Speaker B: So thank you, Carrie, for those. Yeah, they are super cool. They are pretty. But. Yeah. And talking to Patrick figured out he likes watches. I. Anyway, I had this watch, and it still works. I have a couple elsewhere that I think I still have them that don't work, but this one happened to, and I thought, I'll bring it into the shop. [00:07:31] Speaker A: And for those that don't know, for the fun of it, we have. We have younger listeners who may not have seen these braille watches used to be very in vogue. And so obviously you have the talking watches that were like, the time is [00:07:43] Speaker B: 6am but also it's 11am yeah. [00:07:52] Speaker A: Yeah. I did the Thing afterwards. Sorry. [00:07:54] Speaker B: But eventually some of them got rid of the ding and it would just be. The time is 2pm did you say 2 or 10? Yes, yes. [00:08:05] Speaker A: Hits. Whatever time you want it to be. But they also made braille watches that were mechanical contrivances that they still make [00:08:12] Speaker B: them and usually they're battery operated now, but. [00:08:15] Speaker A: But there's a thing about this watch that we'll get to that. [00:08:18] Speaker B: Yes, but these are. They make mechanical ones that you actually wind and you know the purpose of a braille watch, you can feel the time. It is analog. So you're not going to get. It's 1002, but you can open it up. Feel good. [00:08:30] Speaker A: Is it a five minute, roughly? It's like a five. Because it's. [00:08:34] Speaker B: Yeah, because it's. Uses an analog face. [00:08:36] Speaker A: Right. [00:08:37] Speaker B: And you get. Oh, there are. There are people going by. [00:08:43] Speaker A: Yeah, well, it's a good day for it. [00:08:45] Speaker B: Yes. But there's a. It's like three dots on the 12, two on the three, six and nine, and then one on the other side, hours. And so it has, you know, big hand, little hand. If you're learning how to tell time increments. [00:09:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:03] Speaker A: I wonder if people still learn that. [00:09:05] Speaker B: I. I hope so. But some things are just. Some things are a dying art. [00:09:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:10] Speaker B: But I took this into the store yesterday because I thought I want to show Patrick something cool. I've also. It's not a huge store. I've ear hustled a little bit while he's working with other customers and, you know, found out that he kind of has an enthusiasm for watches. [00:09:28] Speaker A: Is that what we're calling that now? Ear hustling? [00:09:31] Speaker B: Eavesdropping. Ear hustling. [00:09:34] Speaker A: I've heard both sounds a lot nicer than eavesdropping than listening. [00:09:42] Speaker B: I actually heard ear hustling for the first time in probably 2012. I think it was at the. At the school for the blind. So the. He's like, are you ear hustling right now? Like, what is ear hustling? [00:09:53] Speaker A: Oh, my. [00:09:54] Speaker B: So that is. That is what it is. Listening into other people's conversations. Not intentionally, just in the store. Other people are around, you pick things up. [00:10:03] Speaker A: You're bored. Yeah. [00:10:04] Speaker B: Yeah. You're waiting. You're waiting because there's a lot of waiting that happens in jewelry shops. They have to go get stuff out of cases or go pull the thing that you brought in from the back. [00:10:15] Speaker A: Size things to attach things, do things. Yeah. So we knew that he liked watches. We didn't know how much Patrick liked watches, though. [00:10:23] Speaker B: We sure learned. [00:10:24] Speaker A: He got very excited by this Braille watch, first of all, that it was cool. You can flip the lid open and see it. [00:10:29] Speaker B: Yes. And that's why I wanted to show him because he's always interested in some of the blind stuff. We've talked about Braille displays and some of the technology. And so I was like, here's something that's a little older, but still cool, especially as a jewelry guy. And he takes this Braille watch, starts looking at it, is just going, oh, my gosh, this is cool. This is cool. Then he flips it over and goes, did you know this is Swiss made? [00:10:54] Speaker A: Yeah. And then didn't he figure out, is it the dial that was. Was. Would glow? There was something that was glowing. [00:11:01] Speaker B: I think that was on a different watch. [00:11:03] Speaker A: Okay. I don't know if that was because he was just over the moon about that watch, though. Like. [00:11:08] Speaker B: Yes. And he was like. And so this watch, I don't know why this ever happened, what the story was, but it had one of those kind of metal expansion bands on it that you see on a lot of watches. People may get them because they have. [00:11:25] Speaker A: Are those the ones that, like, rip out your arm hair? [00:11:27] Speaker B: They feel like it. Yeah, they got like, the little link. [00:11:30] Speaker A: Yeah, those rip out my arm hair. [00:11:31] Speaker B: I hate them. Yeah. And that's what this watch had. Don't know why. Don't know. Patrick thinks it was replaced. He was like, yeah, watch like this, it's probably from about the 60s and would have had a leather band. [00:11:46] Speaker A: He's like, there's nothing more fun, by the way, than watching somebody who knows their craft. [00:11:50] Speaker B: Yes. [00:11:50] Speaker A: Talk about their craft. [00:11:52] Speaker B: Yes. He was like, this must have originally had a leather band on it. [00:11:56] Speaker A: Oh, it wasn't a. This must have. He goes, this originally had a leather band on it. This was. This would have been made in the late 60s. [00:12:03] Speaker B: That's right. [00:12:03] Speaker A: It's Swiss mint. And it's like watching Pawn Stars. [00:12:06] Speaker B: Yes. [00:12:07] Speaker A: It really is. Because, like, Rick Harrison's a big watch guy. And so it's like watching that and just going, yeah, he knows his stuff. This is awesome. [00:12:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Another tell for me that this was older, though. I didn't know exactly how old was that. Instead of a lot of your watches now have a hinge that opens, like, at 6:00'. Clock. [00:12:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:30] Speaker B: This one has a little button, a little stem that you push at about 3:00'. Clock. [00:12:35] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [00:12:37] Speaker B: Yeah. I don't know if you saw that or not on it. [00:12:38] Speaker A: I didn't really look at it. I looked at it a little bit, but it's small and. [00:12:42] Speaker B: Yeah. And I had also said, you know, about the bands. I said, you know, one of the reasons I didn't wear this as much is that the expansion bands are often too big for my wrists. I have little tiny wrists. And he was like, I'm so glad you said that. He's like, I noticed that. And then I noticed that you commented on it. He's like, let me go see what kind of options I have. I want to put a leather band on this thing. [00:13:09] Speaker A: So yeah, he wanted a band on that thing in the words with. So anyways, he found a really nice band, gave us a very nice price on it. We appreciate it. [00:13:16] Speaker B: Yes. [00:13:17] Speaker A: Patrick is good people for all. One people that maybe listen to this podcast in general. Like, if you're going to be in the Yukon, Oklahoma area and you need jewelry work done, please go visit Huntington. [00:13:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I actually I talked to my aunt about having this family ring fixed and I was like, well, I could get one of those little sizers on Amazon or one of those little inserts that you put in. I said, or I could put it on a chain. You know, I would like to maybe go get it fixed and sized correctly, but I want to make sure that, you know, a good job is done on it, seeing as it is if you family piece. And she was like, go to the place that did your wedding bands. Because she was here last June when we purchased them. She said, go to them. They will do a good job. [00:13:59] Speaker A: I love too that we did not get sponsored. We just did a 10 minute ad lib ad for Huntington Fine Jewelers of Yukon. And that's great. So you guys just got some free press. Not that this podcast really has much of an audience. Very few people listen to it, so. [00:14:16] Speaker B: But it was a fun visit yesterday. Got a new band on this watch. Had to think about it for a little bit, but it was like, it is a very nice piece if I am in a situation where I need to dress up. [00:14:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Now you have a nice watch. [00:14:35] Speaker B: Yes. And I can still read a braille watch a lot. [00:14:37] Speaker A: Sharper. It's, you know, nothing against the Apple [00:14:40] Speaker B: watch, but like, it's a lot daintier. So they make men's and women's sizes as far as a women's size. And yeah, because I took one look [00:14:47] Speaker A: at it, I'm just like, I, I don't want to touch this. My fingers are too big. [00:14:51] Speaker B: Yeah, you do have to be really careful when reading one of these that you don't Accidentally move the hands. [00:14:56] Speaker A: Yeah, I hate that. [00:14:56] Speaker B: It is a very feathery. [00:14:58] Speaker A: The other thing that he was very excited was he's like, you guys, it's still keeping time. [00:15:02] Speaker B: Yes. I wound it and set the time on it before we went in the store because I wanted to show him, we'll get this thing in working order. And I knew he was going to think it was cool just because it's a piece of jewelry. He's a jewelry guy. Jewelry's in the family, and it's kind of a piece of blind history. I did not expect, though, the. This is Swiss made. I want to put a band on this very much. [00:15:28] Speaker A: Also, the excitement over time keeping. So that is the thing with watches. People enjoy watches, but they really love watching them work, especially if they're like a mechanical. Especially like a spring loaded, lined watch. Because the work that goes into making those is amazing because you're dealing with. Think of the tiny spring. [00:15:48] Speaker B: Oh, it's these tiny, tiny little pieces. [00:15:51] Speaker A: And you're using, like, tweezers to work on these things. Like, it's amazing. [00:15:59] Speaker B: Yeah. Jewelry is something that has always been very fascinating to me. Not in the same way as it is to somebody that works in the jewelry industry, but just knowing how they put these things together is really something. And the fact that, yeah, this thing is about 60 years old and still works. [00:16:29] Speaker A: The other thing, that's really interesting, too. And I've heard both, actually. Rick Harrison has talked about them from Pawn Stars. I think Adam Savage may have alluded to them, but the 1800s French death clocks are really fascinating. And they're fascinating because they were these clocks, but they made them out of like, they did. They coated the metal in mercury. And nobody realized in the 1800s that Mercury would kill you. And so all these people that worked on these clocks were just doomed. And they're fascinating. Have to ask Patrick if he knows about the death clocks because they're very intricate. [00:17:09] Speaker B: I could see that. I asked him another time we were in the store what got him into jewelry. And, yeah, that's when we found out it runs in the family. He's like, yeah, as a teenager, my dad told me not to get into the jewelry business. So naturally, because I was a teenager, I begged him for a jewelry. [00:17:22] Speaker A: Who thinks. Who thinks that we should get him on the podcast as a. I do. [00:17:26] Speaker B: I do. [00:17:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Let's wait. Okay. So, Patrick, if you're listening, come over and let us interview you for the podcast. [00:17:34] Speaker B: It would be fun. It would be something completely different. And we're all about Random on here. [00:17:39] Speaker A: We'll have to talk more about random places around Yukon, Oklahoma, like Big Easy. Big Easy and stuff. [00:17:45] Speaker B: But we've talked about them definitely a few times. But they still continue to be a favorite. And we've brought many family and now some friends out there too. [00:17:54] Speaker A: Big Easy. We brought a lot of business. So the other thing I wanted to talk about today was Andre had brought up a really interesting question. No, it wasn't Andre, actually. No, not an interesting question. [00:18:06] Speaker B: That one's gonna be on another episode. [00:18:08] Speaker A: This actually was. So I'll just brief because I'm still getting used to them and I don't want to talk about them yet. I just got hearing aids on Thursday and I'm having growing pains with them right now and I'm still getting used to them. I don't want to talk about them because my feelings right now aren't very positive. But that will change as we go because some really cool things have happened because of them. But also they do things that I don't like. And I'm trying to deal with it, [00:18:36] Speaker B: figure out the pros and cons. [00:18:38] Speaker A: Anyways, I was talking to the extern and my doctor and. And we were talking about, like, the fact that, like, oh, yeah, I'm coming from work, took a couple hours off to do this. When I go back, I have to present for my wife's team. We were doing a presentation on some new products and so my team had to present to Alyssa's team. And the comment was made, Wow, I can't imagine working with your spouse all day. And like, I would never want to work with my husband at the same job. And I thought it was an interesting statement because it's a statement that I've heard a lot of people make. Like, so have I. I can't imagine working with my husband slash wife all day. And we are weird because we really love it. So originally you were an assistive technology instructor in Oklahoma City. And due to some policies at the workplace that you worked at, I could not be hired along with you. We could not work in the same department, but we very much wanted to. [00:19:41] Speaker B: And I think my boss at the time really wanted to and then found out that he couldn't. [00:19:46] Speaker A: But we really wanted to be a. I mean, that would have been husband, wife, team, but we wanted to be a boyfriend, girlfriend, teaching, tandem teaching assistive technology. And I think it would have been so much fun. I think we would have had one of the best classrooms. I was going to say it. We would have the best classroom in the country. I think we would be a model classroom for other programs to follow. So if you run a program and need to at instruct. No, I'm just kidding. [00:20:14] Speaker B: Depends on where you live. [00:20:15] Speaker A: Just saying. But no, I think we would be. I think if you got us together teaching tech and or braille, it would be astounding. We are very symbiotic in the way that we work together. It's kind of astounding. People that are around us I think get surprised by it. [00:20:35] Speaker B: Yeah, we definitely had some feedback when we went into the office or went into Louisville. I guess I didn't technically go to the office because the meeting was at a hotel and conference center. But there and even at my previous job on the days that you visited, I definitely had people say like, wow, you guys are cute. [00:20:57] Speaker A: Yeah, we've gotten a lot of you guys are a cute couple. Which. Thank you. Appreciate that. I am adorable and I appreciate that I am also modest. So that's cool. But no, I mean I definitely. I love the concept of being able to work with you. I think it's a lot of fun. We are far enough removed that we do not interact on a regular basis, but we've started interacting more now. [00:21:24] Speaker B: Yeah, it's funny. We've kind of had to. And we know there have to be some, you know, boundaries of like, keep it professional. You know, we don't want to be on a work email sending back like comments that are not appropriate for work or flirty emojis. Hey, can you take time and place for that? [00:21:49] Speaker A: Hey, Smoochie Bear, can you take a look at this trouble ticket for me? Xoxoxo, you know. [00:21:56] Speaker B: Yeah, don't want to. Don't want to do that. So as far as that goes, you know, we keep it professional. There are some meetings where we overlap and there might be something said in joke here or there. And both our teams know it. I mean they've known pretty much since the start and there's never been any problem with that. [00:22:18] Speaker A: And the way that our house is designed is our offices. So we have a three bedroom house. We have a master suite. [00:22:24] Speaker B: Go check out the house tour. [00:22:25] Speaker A: We have two bedrooms and they are literally like our offices and they face each other. So we just kind of yell back and forth throughout the day about various. And it's. I love it, honestly. [00:22:37] Speaker B: I think it's things that need to go through a chain of command. We do that. We're not shortcutting the system or doing anything that we're not supposed to do. [00:22:44] Speaker A: Honestly, I'M glad that we do that, and I think you should do it regardless. But, like, I'm glad because you need people to see what you're doing. [00:22:53] Speaker B: But it is also nice to be able to sometimes say, hey, you're gonna get an email in about 10 minutes. [00:22:58] Speaker A: Incoming. Yeah, there definitely have been email. Incoming messages where I'm just like, you're gonna get a thing. Or usually it's more like, you're gonna get a thing from you. You'll tell me. [00:23:10] Speaker B: Yes, you're gonna be hearing about this thing. [00:23:13] Speaker A: Yep. [00:23:14] Speaker B: And in some ways, it helps because what we are able to do is kind of bridge some of that communication, you know, within the appropriate professional and chain of command, following boundaries. [00:23:29] Speaker A: I also think there's a lot of people, too, that are just like, I want to be away from my partner for the day. And we actually. [00:23:36] Speaker B: We don't like being away. [00:23:38] Speaker A: Like, it. It's actually kind of uncomfortable for us. Part of it was we had just gotten married a couple weeks before, and then we had an annual meeting in Louisville. [00:23:49] Speaker B: Yes. And you went two days before I did. [00:23:51] Speaker A: And I had to go two days before you did. I did not sleep well. I was just not really happy. It was kind of cranky. [00:23:59] Speaker B: I slept okay. But when I got there, we both slept like logs. [00:24:09] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it was. It was great. No. And even at the airport, we took different flights, and so we had just kind of sad about it. Kind of cranky, crying. I said, kind of crad. [00:24:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, it's crad. Dude. [00:24:23] Speaker A: Oh, dude. [00:24:25] Speaker B: And, yeah. Then the best thing was we were too tired to mess with the airport staff. Also, when I got off the flight, because I got there after you did, there was nobody around to assist. And so I kind of made buddies with the seat mate from the plane and was like, hey, can you get me over to this door, please? My husband's hanging out outside. Because, you know, originally we wanted to kind of tease the employees and act like we were meeting for the first time. [00:24:54] Speaker A: Yeah, we were just hooking up at the airport. [00:24:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:56] Speaker A: But we took two different flights. You flew through Atlanta? I flew. Flew through Phoenix, which makes all the sense in the world. So. [00:25:05] Speaker B: And so, yeah, the. The guy and I walk outside, and he's like, oh, is that your husband sitting off to our right? And like, well, I guess we're about to find out. [00:25:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:16] Speaker B: Walked over, said hello. Turns out it was not him. He was at a different airport across the state. [00:25:26] Speaker A: Yeah. So that is to say that, like, I'm really intrigued by that concept that like, someone would be like, I don't want to work with my significant other. And actually, I definitely will say I have been in relationships where I would want that separation. [00:25:40] Speaker B: I think it depends on your relationship dynamic. [00:25:44] Speaker A: It does a lot. [00:25:45] Speaker B: It doesn't mean that one is good or the other is bad. [00:25:50] Speaker A: No. Because I think there's gonna be a lot of people that are like, you know what? I like being away for the day and then seeing. [00:25:55] Speaker B: There's a clay channel I follow on YouTube that goes over different techniques, and they have a phrase that I like that I'm going to steal, which is different equals different. [00:26:03] Speaker A: Yeah. There's a lot of truth to that. I mean. And so obviously, I mean, what doesn't work for one works for someone else. And versus. But, like, I thought it was really interesting. [00:26:15] Speaker B: My mom and stepdad, they work different jobs, but, like, different companies. But they both work at home. They spend a majority of their time around each other. Then you have my dad and stepmom who work different jobs out of the house. My dad has to travel some for his work. She does occasionally, but usually returns back home the same day. And some of it's your circumstances, and you learn to adapt to what you have. And for some, maybe they do just want that time to themselves, you know, for any number of reasons. And it doesn't mean that they love the person any less. [00:26:54] Speaker A: No. There are times that we have meetings and we close doors and stuff. [00:26:58] Speaker B: And there are times outside of work that we sit in our own offices, do our own things. We may talk to each other, we may not. And it's not because there's any problems. It's just sometimes it is nice to have your own space and have your own hobby. But we probably do that a lot less than other couples might. But it is kind of time together. [00:27:19] Speaker A: We are. We are both very fortunate enough to work together and. And actually work together. Like, and it's kind of cool, but we aren't in the same department, so we aren't, like, interacting with each other all day. But that is to say that, like, if we did, I don't think we would do okay. I think we'd do fine. [00:27:37] Speaker B: There are. There are some rules of, like, one of us can't be the manager of the other. [00:27:42] Speaker A: No. And that's the right thing. Honestly, I. I'm fully on board with that. [00:27:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:48] Speaker A: I don't think you should ever manage your partner. [00:27:51] Speaker B: I. I just. I don't think it's very fair because you have to be tougher on them than you are on anyone else. Otherwise you're going to get accused of being, you know, nepotistic or playing. [00:28:05] Speaker A: You got to be tough on them when you don't want to be. [00:28:07] Speaker B: Yeah. And that can cause issues at home that you don't want. Because though we all try to say, well, I can compartmentalize, I can separate work from home, it's not always that easy. [00:28:20] Speaker A: But I mean, I don't think we've ever had a problem with anything that we've worked on together at work bleeding over, being like, wow, I can't believe you did that. You're gonna go sleep on the couch for handling it that way. No, it's never been. [00:28:32] Speaker B: But we are separate entities enough. And also, I think we know that there's a larger system and that, you know, blaming one another for a thing that happened is not going to fix a thing that happened. [00:28:43] Speaker A: But even like teaching together, I still don't think we'd have that problem. I mean, I think it. There are some students that you'd work better with. There's some students that I'd work better with. And we would figure it out and we would make it happen or figure [00:28:57] Speaker B: out, like, hey, you know, so and so needs a little extra one on one. Can you watch my people while I go work with this person for a little while? [00:29:04] Speaker A: And I really, I really think it's. It's unfortunate we never got a chance to do that. And sometimes that's the way the world works. But, you know, I mean, I'm thankful for what I have and I'm thankful for what I do. Yeah, I wouldn't change that. I really wouldn't. But, you know, we all have the things that we wish for and I. [00:29:22] Speaker B: I would love if wishes were fishes. [00:29:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:25] Speaker B: And I know fishes isn't a word before anybody goes, you said a thing. That's not a word. [00:29:31] Speaker A: I wonder how transcription handles fishes. [00:29:37] Speaker B: I wonder. And yeah, we are all too quick sometimes, I think, to correct one another. So it's like, I'll correct myself before somebody else feels like they need to. [00:29:49] Speaker A: So, yeah, I wanted to save. So for the next episode, just to give you a preview, and I'll give you the Reader's Digest, I have started converting my old games over to a modern system. So for the nerds out there, I'm converting my games from Visual Basic 6 and Python over to NVGT, which is the Non Visual Gaming Games Toolkit. I hate acronyms so much. We were talking about CPAC yesterday and called. I was in and I was like, it's certified professional of accessibility certification or something. [00:30:28] Speaker B: Accessibility Core competencies. [00:30:30] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Is that what it is? [00:30:31] Speaker B: I love acronyms. [00:30:33] Speaker A: Yeah, I had a freelance call yesterday and so we were setting up some stuff and I was talking about CPAC and that I don't have it currently but would love to get it and can't speak on because we were discussing the proper use of alt tagging and what makes up good versus bad alt text and stuff like that. And so I was like, yeah, I don't have the certification, so I can't speak to that. But like I can probably provide basic guidelines and really more common sense guidelines. So that's all to say. I don't know what I'm saying. Anyways, we were. I'm converting these games over from old languages to new languages. Also trying to do some quality of life improvements. So things that the original games didn't have. Like Super Liam, for example, when you jump, you press the right arrow repeatedly to move. That's stupid. No one does that in a video game. You don't play Mario and you don't jump and press the right arrow. You jump and your character moves because Airplane. Oh, yeah, it is an airplane. Oh, wow. That would be a jet. [00:31:44] Speaker B: Yes. That is not one of those little babies. [00:31:46] Speaker A: You don't have a little propeller death. Plane of death. [00:31:51] Speaker B: We get those around here. [00:31:52] Speaker A: Oh, we sure do. And we get copters because we're right near the freeway. [00:31:56] Speaker B: Yeah. So there's a. I'm sure the traffic copter comes around and of course the life flight copter. [00:32:03] Speaker A: Yeah. So I'm converting all this stuff over and I wanted to talk a little bit about. And this will be the next one because Andre had pitched a really good question about my thoughts on AI and my thoughts as a developer, slash engineer, slash programmer, whatever, and how I felt. And yeah, so I want to talk about that next time because I don't think it's a quick topic. But that is to say I am converting games over. Super Liam is actually almost done and [00:32:33] Speaker B: stay tuned to the YouTube channel. [00:32:35] Speaker A: Yeah, so I'll have some more news on that. We're going to release it soon. Soon, I think at the Air is going to join me for like a special release party and I'm gonna play through the game and then show you all the cool extra goodies I've added for you. [00:32:47] Speaker B: And you're letting him on the stream? [00:32:50] Speaker A: You know, I didn't want to, but I feel bad for him because no one likes him. That I was like, you know, you just. It's the right thing to do. [00:33:01] Speaker B: Oh, I see. [00:33:01] Speaker A: And sometimes you just. You gotta do the. The nice thing and. And be nicer to people that are less fortunate than yourself. [00:33:08] Speaker B: Funny story. One day Athe actually called into my work and got me, and afterwards he was like, she's really nice. [00:33:20] Speaker A: I don't know how to respond to that because I can't decide if, like, what I'm going to say is going to end me on the couch or not. So I'm just going to say that you've been listening to 404, sight not found. And we'd love to hear from you. If you. If you're listening to this on YouTube, drop. Drop us a comment. If you're not, drop us a comment on YouTube. Anyways. [00:33:39] Speaker B: Yeah. And tell us, do you want to talk to Patrick? [00:33:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Should we get Patrick on the show? What do you guys think your votes matter or something? This is a democracy. I don't know. Patrick's listening. Patrick, do you want to get interviewed and be on a podcast that probably has less viewers than a cable access show? Let us know. [00:33:59] Speaker B: I mean, hey, free press is free press, right? [00:34:03] Speaker A: Right. But we'll see you guys next time. As always, you know, we'll see you when we see you here on 404. Site not.