404 Sight not Found for January 5, 2026 - Puppies and Pennsylvania

[00:00:08] Speaker A: Hello and welcome to 404 sight not found for January 5th, 2026. Hey, welcome to 2026. [00:00:18] Speaker B: It's our first podcast of the year. [00:00:20] Speaker A: And we didn't do a New Year's roundup like we normally would because I don't know why we didn't. [00:00:27] Speaker B: Things have been busy and people have been tired. Yeah, I think that's a great way to sum it up. [00:00:35] Speaker A: I have been tired. I like, I've kind. I'm tired down. Winter takes it out of you and it's been kind of a weird. We really haven't had winter here yet. [00:00:52] Speaker B: The weather has been some of the strangest. It got up into the 70s today. [00:00:58] Speaker A: We had to run the air conditioner on. Was it on Christmas Day? [00:01:02] Speaker B: Yes. [00:01:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I guess if you live in the South. So if you're in like Florida, you're just like, so. But like, we're from the Midwest. We're not used to that. So, like, you come down to like Oklahoma and you still aren't. [00:01:15] Speaker B: And even here I don't feel like. [00:01:18] Speaker A: No, I don't think you usually have to do that. [00:01:22] Speaker B: No. [00:01:23] Speaker A: But who can say? But yeah. So I, I would love to do like a wrap up, but I don't really know what there is to say. 2025 happened. Well, we got married. [00:01:36] Speaker B: I mean, yeah, that was a big deal. [00:01:37] Speaker A: You guys know that. [00:01:38] Speaker B: I mean, if you don't. Where have you been? [00:01:41] Speaker A: Yeah, it was kind of funny before we started this podcast, I was sitting here going, what would I even talk about what happened in 2025? Like, I. I really had that moment where I was just like, what actually happened? And yeah, I kind of forgot we got married. I just. [00:01:56] Speaker B: We've always kind of acted like we are. [00:01:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:00] Speaker B: So, like, really, we were putting it on paper. [00:02:03] Speaker A: It's really all it was. And hey, that's fine, you know, nothing wrong with that. [00:02:09] Speaker B: Less last names. [00:02:11] Speaker A: Yeah, less. Less names. So I am going on a trip in a couple weeks, actually. One, almost one week now. [00:02:22] Speaker B: What is it about a week and a half now? [00:02:23] Speaker A: I don't know if I'm gonna capture much audio because I want to go enjoy it, but I am going to Seattle to go see a hockey game. Well, two hockey games actually. I'm going to see the Everett Silver Tips. And if you're like, what the heck is the Everett Silver Tips? That's okay. They are a junior hockey team. So all the players are 15 to 20. They play in the Canadian years old. [00:02:52] Speaker B: That's not some weird statistical thing. [00:02:54] Speaker A: No, they have. Yeah. 15 to 20 years of life, kind of. You know, I figured that, you know, it makes sense, but I'm sure somebody was just like, 15 to 20. What? Stone. [00:03:06] Speaker B: There's like, junior. You would assume that means kids. But what if it's like cheeseburgers? I don't know. I don't like Junior Big Mac. [00:03:16] Speaker A: Yeah, the Junior Big Mac. [00:03:18] Speaker B: I guess that's a thing. [00:03:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess so. [00:03:20] Speaker B: Little Mac or something like that. [00:03:22] Speaker A: The Little Mac, yeah. So, yeah, they play in the Canadian Hockey League. It's a development league for players 15, 20 years old that are trying to. [00:03:33] Speaker B: Get to the big times. [00:03:34] Speaker A: Yeah. They've had such players as. Oh, a guy named Sidney Crosby. [00:03:40] Speaker B: You know, full disclosure, I didn't know who that was until about a year ago. [00:03:44] Speaker A: Really? [00:03:45] Speaker B: I didn't watch hockey. [00:03:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I guess he's not that ubiquitous like I would expect. [00:03:54] Speaker B: A lot of hockey players aren't like football. Yes. Baseball, to some extent. [00:03:58] Speaker A: A lot of people know who Wayne Gretzky is. [00:04:02] Speaker B: That's fair. But he was not a CHL player. [00:04:05] Speaker A: No, he actually was not. I don't think he ever played in the ohl. He did play for the Indianapolis Racers, though, which is kind of a fun. [00:04:19] Speaker B: Yeah, because Indy 500. [00:04:21] Speaker A: Yeah, the Indy. They were in the International Hockey League. So, yeah, we are doing. I'm doing a trip. You are not going. You're gonna stay home and work the. [00:04:35] Speaker B: Rest of the week, and then. Yeah, Mary Mozzarella is going to come over that Saturday, I think, and we'll clay the day away or something. [00:04:41] Speaker A: Yeah, y' all can have a lady's day. [00:04:46] Speaker B: That's the idea. But, yeah, I guess the only other notable, though not happy thing of 2025 was the subject of our last podcast. [00:04:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:58] Speaker B: You know, losing Jan. And one of the things that I alluded to in that episode but probably didn't discuss in depth was training. And the question kind of came up like, well, what is guide dog training? And I'll take a minute to talk about my experience. And let me just start by saying this is my experience. This is not, you know, anybody else's experience. Everyone goes through this in a different way. I've had a couple dogs before Jan, but to make a long story as short as possible, you know, I. I chose the Seeing Eye as the place I wanted to go get her. And before I got in, you know, I had to have, like, an O. M. Evaluation. They had to see, can I safely make decisions about crossing streets, Can I book a route without getting totally turned around? [00:05:58] Speaker A: What made you choose the cni? [00:06:01] Speaker B: Sure. [00:06:01] Speaker A: And because that's kind of, I think, a big thing. So for those that don't know, there are multiple schools, and when somebody calls it a guide dog or a Seeing. [00:06:12] Speaker B: Eye dog or a leader dog or, you know, there's names. [00:06:17] Speaker A: You hear people go like, oh, I. That's my Seeing Eye dog. Like, literally, if it's a. If they're using the term correctly, it is a dog from the Seeing Eye. [00:06:27] Speaker B: Yes. The school is in Morristown, New Jersey. And I could probably run an entirely separate episode that is all about the methods of obtaining a guide dog and what all the factors are that you might want to look into to make your best decision. [00:06:46] Speaker A: But there are. [00:06:47] Speaker B: If people are interested in something like that, let me know. [00:06:50] Speaker A: There are multiple schools in the United States, and obviously Canada's got schools. I believe the UK does. Ireland's got one. [00:06:57] Speaker B: South Korea has one. They have the Samsung Guide Dog School. [00:07:01] Speaker A: Do you get, like, a robot? [00:07:03] Speaker B: No, it's just sponsored by Samsung. [00:07:06] Speaker A: Does it, like, lead you down the street and just start going, woof, woof, woof, woof, woof, woof, woof. [00:07:10] Speaker B: It's Steve the Robo guide. [00:07:12] Speaker A: Oh, no, not Steve the robo guy. But. So that is to say that, like, in. In America, you have a lot of choices is to where you're gonna get your dog. So it's not like. Like the uk, I think, has got. [00:07:29] Speaker B: Dogs Ireland or Irish guide dogs, Celtic dogs or something. [00:07:33] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:07:35] Speaker B: But here there's probably 10 or so different schools. [00:07:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:38] Speaker B: Counted all of them out. And there are other means. You know, you can train your own. There's. [00:07:44] Speaker A: But I mean, just if we're talking about schools. [00:07:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:46] Speaker A: Just like when it comes to schools, because we could. We could really go real, like, deep into the bunny hutch on. [00:07:53] Speaker B: Yeah. And again, if that's something that people are interested in, say, so happy to wax poetic on dogs, but for the sake of what we're doing here, I picked the Seeing Eye. I mean, it's the oldest one around. No, that's not really why, but it was the first one. [00:08:13] Speaker A: That is the fact you like things that are old. And you married me, so, I mean, I think there's some truth to that, you know. Oh, boy, I'm all old and stuff. [00:08:27] Speaker B: Yeah. But to me, I liked their approach to training, and this is not me trying to open up a can of worms about what type of training is better. I like the fact that they have kind of a balanced approach that they do praise Correction. Some treats, that was something that was important to me. You know, I. I personally don't want to walk around with a big old pouch of treats like Pez dispensing treats every time my doggie does something good. That is just me. I'm not trying to open a debate or can of worms here. That that was my decision. And also one thing, Seeing Eye does that. You know, I don't know which other schools do. It's been a long time since I've researched specific schools and I'm not here to, you know, say one's good, the other's bad, so on and so forth. When you leave class, when you graduate with that dog, that is your dog, you own it, you make its decisions for the rest of its life. So, for instance, when Jan went to live with her adoptive parents, I made that decision. I chose the people she went to live with and got to stay in contact as a result. We actually just went and had Christmas at their house. [00:09:44] Speaker A: We sure did. [00:09:44] Speaker B: That was really nice of them to invite us, but to me, that was important for others. You know, maybe that's not something that is as much of a value to them. Or maybe they want the regular follow up from the school because it holds them accountable or they just, they're new to dogs. They don't really know what they're doing. They want that, you know, extra encouragement. Like, no decision here is a bad one. [00:10:12] Speaker A: Right. You just got to figure out what works for you. And I think we may have talked about this in the last one is like, really comes down to doing your homework. Talk to schools. [00:10:23] Speaker B: Talk to handlers that have gone through different schools. [00:10:27] Speaker A: And it's 2026. There is a massive amount of information. [00:10:31] Speaker B: Online and talk to people that have gone to a school recently because. Because even within a particular school, things can change. I recently, I don't know how true it is. It's not substantiated to my knowledge, but there was a. There was word going around that Seeing Eye might be changing the kind of collars they use. [00:10:50] Speaker A: Okay. [00:10:50] Speaker B: You know, so things do change in that scape, even with, you know, a school that's been around for 100 years. [00:10:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:10:58] Speaker B: So try to talk to people that have been recently. Call the schools, ask them questions. They love to talk to you. They. They want people to come to their class. And then, you know, once you figure out where you want to go, you apply. And for every school, that process may look a little different. You know, I filled out, like, I answered some questions about, you know, my living Environment, lifestyle. You know how much walking I did. And then they sent out an instructor to do what they call a Juno walk. And what that essentially means is the instructor pretends to be the dog. They have, like a harness handle and. [00:11:43] Speaker A: Do they, like, jump up on you and lick you and stuff? [00:11:46] Speaker B: No, no. More so the guide part. Oh, oh, oh, oh. They pretend to be, you know, they. They have this little handle they hold that magically turns. [00:11:55] Speaker A: So they don't. They don't like, beat you with their tail and stuff? [00:11:58] Speaker B: No. And they don't, like, pee on fire hydrant. [00:12:01] Speaker A: They don't try to crawl up in your lap like Jan did. [00:12:05] Speaker B: I never had one of my dogs try to pee on a fire hydrant, but they are very. You know, they can get a little sniffy around the fire hydrant sometimes because every other dog has peed on the fire hydrant. [00:12:17] Speaker A: I did not understand why dogs pee on fire hydrants. Is there. [00:12:21] Speaker B: Can someone, someone explain this. This phenomenon? [00:12:27] Speaker A: Okay, but, yeah, I want to know. Leave a comment if, you know. [00:12:31] Speaker B: Did we just find our podcast title, the the Fire Hydrant Conundrum? [00:12:38] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe. [00:12:42] Speaker B: But anyway, all that's to say, the Juno walk, they're looking at a few things. You know, they're looking at what speed do you actually walk at? How much pull do you want from that harness? You know, do you want a dog that is going to be forceful and really tug you in one direction or another? Like, do you have a bad veer and you need that dog to be able to kind of shove you in the right direction? Or do you just kind of need a gentle tug forward like you want some tug? The dog has to be walking about a step to step and a half ahead of you so that you can feel what's going on and they can tell you what's about to happen. Pretty much a step. Because the idea of a dog is if they stop, one of the first things you do is put your usually, like, over here. Anyway, dogs are on the left, so you put your right foot kind of out to see, oh, is there a curb here or something? Yeah, so they're looking at that. They're looking at, you know, if you have to correct your dog using the leash and what that essentially means when your leash is clipped onto the collar. And sometimes you may have to do a sort of tug and release. And what that does, it kind of goes back to, like, what the doggies learn when they're baby puppies. Yes, I said. I just said baby puppies. I know that's redundant. From their moms. You know, the mom lifts them by the scruff of the neck or bites them on the scruff of the neck if they're misbehaving. So it kind of mimics that feel. So they want to see what your correction strength is. They want to see for themselves what your living environment is. And that way they can take all that information back to the school. Because the tricky thing is, you know, usually the person that comes out and does this Juno walk is not going to be the same person that works with you in class. They at least at Seeing Eye. Again, I can't speak for anywhere else and some schools have kind of changed it up now to where they actually, they do videos instead of having someone actually come out and do a live walk. And there could be benefits to that too. Yeah, less travel. The actual instructor that's going to be working with you can see you walk. You know, there are like benefits and trade offs to both. But anyway, they take a bunch of notes and they may ask some questions while they're with you too, you know, do you have a preference of gender, breed, kind of the general size? And it's like, well, they're labs and shepherds and golden retrievers and such. How much size difference can there really be? Oh, fair bitch. Little Jan started out about 45 pounds when I got her and she wasn't quite all the way grown yet. She was about a year and a half. So I think 50 was about a good top out for her. But, but you know, I had a friend with an 80 pound lab. Yeah, I've seen some big old German shepherds. I've seen some tiny German shepherds. Like they kind of come in a variety of sizes. And what gets picked for you may be a little bit based on your size, your weight as they're, you know, they're having to kind of pull on you a little bit. But it is funny sometimes you get like, you know, little bitty short girl and giant dog. Yeah, it does happen. I actually, yeah, I knew somebody who is unfortunately not with us anymore was I think shorter than I am and had a dog that was so tall she had like an 8 inch harness handle. The standard length of a harness handle is about 16 inches. [00:16:27] Speaker A: Oh my gosh. [00:16:28] Speaker B: Yes. But she had gotten her dog through a school in Canada that has a larger breed of like a lab and Burmese mountain dog mix. [00:16:41] Speaker A: Holy cow. [00:16:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:43] Speaker A: What do you ride it to, like wherever you're going? [00:16:48] Speaker B: I think that joke was made to her quite a few times. But anyway, all of that Goes back to the school and then there's a lot of waiting. You wait, you wait, you wait some more. And then one day, you know, I got the phone call that was, hey, this is so and so from the Seeing Eye. We think we have a match for you. Are you ready to come into the next class in a few weeks? And at the time when I got Jen, I really didn't have a lot else going on, so there was really no schedule, logistics or anything I had to check. I don't know what that would look like. Now. I don't have any immediate plans to get one per se, but if that ever came up with being employed and maybe every workplace is different and how they classify that. [00:17:41] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, they all handle it differently. It's a great question though, and I, I don't know the answer because obviously. [00:17:47] Speaker B: I know a couple people I could ask about my specific workplace. [00:17:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:53] Speaker B: One in particular that I met at Annual comes to mind. [00:17:57] Speaker A: Yep. [00:18:01] Speaker B: And yeah, somebody on my team might have actually done the same thing trying to remember when they got their dog. But anyway, you know, they, they usually give you a few weeks notice. It's not like, oh, you're coming into class tomorrow. And I realize I'm kind of speaking second person, but really, you know, all this was my experience. I just, I like to speak to the people, not at the people. And me, me, me, me, me. So. And Seeing Eye books your travel and pays for that. So once. Oh, and the other piece I forgot, I apologize. It is the end of the day, folks. They. You also do like a medical. You get a physical that makes sense. And there's a form that they have your doctor fill out just to make sure that, you know, you're up to the task physically. Because in class there's a lot of walking, so much walking. I would need to probably get on a better exercise regiment before I ever thought about going back into class because right now that is basically non existent. [00:19:12] Speaker A: Me too. I'm fat. [00:19:17] Speaker B: We like to eat and don't do a lot of physical, like walks or anything like that. [00:19:24] Speaker A: Nope. [00:19:26] Speaker B: Should be, you know, everyone says like New Year's resolution, go to the gym. We didn't even pretend. [00:19:32] Speaker A: My New Year's resolution is to not make any more New Year's resolutions. [00:19:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel that. But yeah, so they, they get the medical paperwork, they get the match. Recently. Well, I shouldn't say recently. It happened. So when I went to class before, it wasn't a thing. But when I went for Jan, one of the things they requested and I Think it was a newer health regulation that they had to, they had to make me go get a tuberculosis test. But I mean, that's, you know, no big thing. But you are living in a communal space for a few weeks, so that's something they want to keep tabs on. [00:20:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:22] Speaker B: So day comes, and when I, when I went to get Jan, my flights were a nightmare. But that's just because air travel can be that way. It had nothing to with the school. My first flight, it seemed like it mysteriously never got canceled, but it also never left the ground. Just kept getting delayed, delayed, delayed. I told the airport that I had appointments I had to make in New Jersey. And the real kicker was at the time I was in Virginia and could have gotten there faster on the train than I spent waiting in the airport most of the day. You know, by the time I got to Seeing Eye, because they, they send you to Newark Airport and then that's another like 45 minutes from the school. Everyone had finished dinner. They were having like the first, you know, get to meet the class and kind of go over some house rules. And so I'm eating a plate of leftovers because, you know, they saved me back some food because my plane was so late. But you meet the team of instructors and they go over like the, please be up on time to take your dogs out and things like that. And yeah, you live in like a. I don't want to say it's a dorm because it's a lot nicer for about, if it's your first dog, three and a half weeks. If you're going for a successor or two and a half. But they give you a nice big bedroom with a queen size bed. You get your own bathroom. They take care of all the towels and laundry, like linen laundry. They have housekeeping that comes in and cleans. You're responsible for your own personal laundry and such. They want to set you up for success because you're there to focus on getting your dog, not so much, you know, having to worry about logistics. So there's a dining room that feeds you a lot of delicious food. If you leave a meal there hungry, it's your own fault because they have so much food going on. They get like executive chefs. First couple days you have lectures on dog care. You know what to expect when you get the new dog. You meet your instructor who does another Juno walk or two just to kind of make sure that, you know, the dog that they had in mind is what they're gonna go with. And I was told in my case that, yes. Jan was the first impression dog and remains so. And about day three, you meet that fluffball for the first time. And so there's an airplane. [00:23:17] Speaker A: Sorry, guys. [00:23:18] Speaker B: Yes. [00:23:19] Speaker A: I don't know if that's going to come through in the recording. There's an airplane going over. [00:23:25] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm sitting in my room. My trainer comes in, you know, like, are you ready to meet your dog? I said, yep. She's like, okay, sit here on the end of the bed and I'll, you know, clip your leash on. And I knew I had a little dog because the bed wasn't super high, but it was definitely a little up there. And I had to really almost fold myself in half to actually reach the dog. I was like, oh, you're tiny. And she was. [00:23:52] Speaker A: I always wonder too, like, if the dogs know that this is going to be their new person. [00:23:59] Speaker B: Some dogs adjust quicker than others. I definitely saw situations, especially with the German shepherds because they're just so stinking loyal that. Especially if the instructor that handed them off was the instructor that trained them. Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. Not. The German shepherd would start singing a chorus. [00:24:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:21] Speaker B: When the instructor left, I was told, you know, by the trainer, like, hey, I trained Jan, so when I leave, she may whine. And one of the things they went over in lectures was how to deal with that. [00:24:35] Speaker A: So how do you deal with that? [00:24:37] Speaker B: So the thing that you don't do is put your arms around him and go, it's okay. Everything's gonna be just fine. Oh, my goodness. You know, you give them some little head scratches, ear scratches, you know, scratch me in the tail. It's okay. You're okay. Because the bigger deal you make, the bigger deal they make. [00:25:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:05] Speaker B: And that is something you learn a lot about. You know, if you freak out because the storm's coming, they're going to freak out because the storm's coming. [00:25:13] Speaker A: Yep. [00:25:14] Speaker B: And so those next couple weeks I spent. So she was a successor for me because I'd gone for the full class when I got Miss Melody in 2014. So I kind of got the. Oh, what's the word I'm looking for? Like the. The sped up schedule, the accelerated schedule. There we go. And so we first started out just walking around areas that she was familiar with. They have like a downtown training building. And so we walked some routes around a couple blocks there. Anyone who's familiar with Seeing Eye knows about the Elm street route. It's like a. Say it's about a mile long route with some different types of crossings. You've got some signs, some lighted, and when you accomplish that, that's one of your, what they call solo walks. Like, you learn it with the instructor, and then you end up, you know, within about a week walking that with your own dog. And they throw some barriers up to watch, you know, how you and the dog navigate around them. Then they also will sometimes bring out what they call distraction dogs, which are either dogs that didn't make it as guides. There are many reasons that can happen. Medical just not cut out for it. Trauma, or some of the instructors bring their own. Some of them have little dogs and try to throw those in the guide dog's face and see how the team works through that. Once those routes are done, we got to do the fun stuff of going shopping, going into like a mall, and running around Barnes and Noble and going and getting a coffee at the Starbucks in the back. Learning about escalators. There's a building that we go to and learn about revolving doors, which it's one of those. You hope you don't need it, but if you do know how to use them. And so one of the things that I've done with each of my classes and that anyone who's maybe new to this, I highly recommend, say yes to all the things that they ask, you know, do you want to go on a hike? Are you interested in learning escalators? You know, they try to give you as many experiences as you want. You know, if you absolutely, you know, if you have a mobility issue that you can't do escalators and they're not going to make you. Or for some folks, they will adapt some of the routes to be a little bit shorter if they have, you know, a heart condition or some other health concern. But where possible, you know, say yes to all the experiences. Go out in the rain, because guess what? You're gonna do it when you get home. [00:28:13] Speaker A: Sure are. [00:28:14] Speaker B: You know, go take the sidewalkless street because you might see one, even if that's not the neighborhood you live in. You may go to a friend's house that doesn't have sidewalks, and what do you do, you know, learn all the things. And it doesn't seem like a very long time, like two and a half weeks, but they pack a lot into that. It feels like a lot. It is. It's exhausting. I will say guide dog school is probably some of the best sleep I've ever gotten in my life, because by the end of the day, I'm exhausted. And then getting up at 5:30 in the morning to feed the dog and take her out to the bathroom. That's another thing you get to learn, especially if you're a first timer, is how to pick up poop. [00:29:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm good. Stick with my cane. [00:29:13] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, I guess the worst thing you got to worry about with that is, like, your tip cracks in the middle of the sidewalk or somebody runs over it. [00:29:22] Speaker A: You don't want that to happen. No, no, no. That's. That's not good. [00:29:26] Speaker B: Well, we did have to stop and do, like, a drive by cane tip change for you one time. [00:29:31] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Back in Colorado. [00:29:32] Speaker B: Yeah. I heard this little ting. Ting went, oh, your cane tip just broke. [00:29:37] Speaker A: Sure. Did you. [00:29:39] Speaker B: So we had to pull over and change a tire and. Yeah. Before I ever got Jan some of what she went through, you know, she had a puppy raiser from about, you know, she was born at the. The Seeing Eyes breeding facility and was with her mother for about eight weeks, then went to a puppy raiser, which is a family that host a dog for about the first year. They learn basic obedience, and the family takes them on all kinds of outings. And they have to get some permission from places. But being around the Seeing Eye, it's pretty well known that, like, puppy raisers are gonna bring the puppies out, but they, you know, get permission to take them into stores. And, like, some of them, I think it was. Oh, yeah, Jan's family, the primary raiser, was a high school student, and so, like, she went to band concerts and things. You know, they try to expose them to a lot of different experiences to. To kind of let them get used to what they'll be seeing when they become a working guide. So that's for about a year. They come back, and during that time, too, they're checking in with Seeing Eye staff. They're having regular meetings and seeing how things are going. So some dogs get dropped before they ever even get back to school. But then they come back, they get medically examined, and if there's issues there, they might get dropped. And they think in most of those cases, they'll go back to the puppy raiser. Unless the puppy raiser is like, I don't have room for more at the end. And then I'll find them a fan family. But then they start getting evaluated, make sure they're good candidates for training. Some of them will go to training. Some of them will become breeders because they got to keep the program going. [00:31:40] Speaker A: That's right. [00:31:41] Speaker B: So we got to have more puppies. Some will go on to work in other Careers like bomb dogs, cadaver dogs, therapy dogs, really wide range of police dogs for some of the shepherds. Like, really wide range of things that the dogs can still possibly do. They just may not have the right temperament for guiding because it goes against so many of their instincts like prey drive and, you know, food. There's a lot that, you know as a guide, you can't just get distracted and go chase a squirrel Because Blindy McBlinderson over here doesn't know that the squirrel's there to stop you. And now Blindy McBlinderson's being dragged across the pavement. [00:32:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I hate when that happens. I am blinding McBlinderson, by the way. Just want to point that out. [00:32:37] Speaker B: Oh, well. So, yep, that's, you know, what they go through. Then they, you know, they get matched with, they get an instructor. And each instructor has. Usually starts with about 10 dogs. And again, through that training process, the dogs can stop anytime they want. If they're just not in it or have some life altering experience or whatnot, they may drop at any point. Or if they are making dangerous decisions even after they've had the training, they may be pulled in career change, which could either mean going into one of these other careers or being adopted out. And they go through about three to four months of training and they're learning about traffic. That's one of the big ones. And how to avoid cars. And that's one of the things we do in class is instructors try to run us over. Yeah, they'll actually, usually it's a training manager will be in a car and they will purposely, they know what they're doing. They're being at a safe enough distance, I think. But as you're making a crossing, they will cut you off in a car to make sure that the dog is going to stop and, you know, refuse to move forward until that car is safely passed. That's the intelligent disobedience. I tell Jan. Forward. Jan says, no, it's not safe. I'm not listening to that. But they're learning traffic. They're learning avoiding obstacles, like things in the middle of the walkways. They're learning to stop at curbs and stairs because if they don't stop, I don't know what's there. I'm gonna fall on my face. Yeah, that's how I find out what's going on. So a lot's happening. Get the dog. You know, I'm there for my two and a half weeks. And then we come home and start our life. And the school's always there. If I need them, I can give them a call. Anytime something comes up, they'll try to help me troubleshoot it, you know, over the phone if they can give me things to try. If that doesn't work, you know, they can send somebody out. And that's how Seeing Eye does it. Some schools actually do like a yearly follow up where they do send somebody out to see how things are going. Others have like, you know, month check ins, 90 day check ins and they kind of decrease as time goes on and you're doing well. But that's a little bit about training and what in the heck that actually means. [00:35:46] Speaker A: Yeah, because I mean it varies depending on the school and it can vary widely. And so if you have a guide dog and want to leave a comment, I'd love to hear about your experience. Yeah, tell us like what school did you go to? When did you go? What's your dog's name? [00:36:05] Speaker B: Yeah, what's your doggies? You know, what's the, what's the stats like? You know, breed, age. Yeah, birthday. [00:36:13] Speaker A: Love to hear about that. [00:36:15] Speaker B: That's one of the things. I think it was after about the first week. You know, I, I knew that her name was Jan and that she was a female yellow lab, but I didn't know her weight, her birthday. Is there anything else? And yeah, I think it was weight and birthday and sometimes they know the parent names, sometimes they don't. But fun fact, there were four of her other siblings in class with us. [00:36:46] Speaker A: Wow. [00:36:48] Speaker B: Yes. So she was one of five in the class and then I know of three others that she was, were in a little bit later classes because yeah, they can sometimes hold over a dog for a couple months if they don't have a person in mind. I think there does become a point where if they just cannot find a match, they will end up looking at a career change. But they really do try to find a person for each dog and it's, it's part art, part science, part magic, if you believe in that. [00:37:24] Speaker A: Part arf too. [00:37:26] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah. Tell us about your doggies. Give us the bio. [00:37:32] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, we'd love to hear about it. You know, and. Well, I don't know, I think it's really interesting. I, I think like a lot of people you hear about guide dogs and, and, and you know that they're obviously out there, but there's a lot that people don't know. And I think it, you know, knowledge. [00:37:53] Speaker B: Is power and this was a very abbreviated version. I didn't want this to turn into another Hour and a half epic of me regaling my entire time at Guide Dog Squad. [00:38:04] Speaker A: I promise you, if you want to learn more, listen, if you're watching this on YouTube, go do a search for like guide dogs. You'll find plenty of videos. I'm sure there is a cornucopia of knowledge out there for you. [00:38:17] Speaker B: Yes. And Facebook has several groups that you can reach out to. There's tons of resources. [00:38:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:31] Speaker B: And you know, contact the schools themselves. They, they all have, you know, admissions specialists or they, they all kind of have different titles depending on where you go. It might be an admissions counselor or yeah, coordinator. But they will kind of be your point of contact until you get there anyway. But if you are interested, they definitely want to hear from you because you know, the more dogs they can get out there, the, the better it looks for them too. Because at the end of the day they are at least here in the US all of them are non profit. But if they can show numbers, they do answer to some governing agencies. There is like the Assistance Dogs International, the International Guide Dog Federation and people have various thoughts on those. I'm not getting into that here. You know, we're all friends here. But they do answer to folks out there. It's not just a big old free for all. [00:39:34] Speaker A: So. [00:39:36] Speaker B: Not going to say that they're in it to bolster their numbers because they're not. They want to pair dogs and people, but in order to do that they got to get people in the door. [00:39:47] Speaker A: So I have one more interesting topic for, for this podcast. So we talked about 2025. Let's talk about 2026. What are we looking forward to this year? [00:40:03] Speaker B: Well, your trip is coming up. I know that was one that we talked about and we just missed World Braille Day. That was yesterday. So happy, you know, belated happy. [00:40:12] Speaker A: Now I can read the ATM of the drive up ATM deck and the elevator. [00:40:17] Speaker B: As long as it's in the elevator. [00:40:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:18] Speaker B: As long as it's braille. Yeah. [00:40:20] Speaker A: As long as it has braille on it. [00:40:21] Speaker B: Did encounter one that didn't so crazy thing. [00:40:24] Speaker A: Well, yeah, I mean I can think of a couple things I'm looking forward to. I am actually looking forward to the ACB convention if we go. It's in St. Louis and we're definitely looking at it. Looking at going so you can meet the Irvins. [00:40:40] Speaker B: That's right. [00:40:42] Speaker A: So that will be the summer in St. Louis. I'm. I want to go. I think it'd be cool. Looking forward to that. I'm also looking forward to. And I don't know how much they'll cost or what it's going to look like. I am looking forward to Google Glasses. Like Gemini glasses. Not, not Google Glass. [00:40:59] Speaker B: But like, I hope they do them similar. I hope they've partnered with a sunglasses manufacturer and can make them look nice and Main Street. [00:41:09] Speaker A: Well, that's the thing. Now if people want trendy. Oh, I was all I was. I was kind of flopped out in this chair, dining chair. I had to like pull myself up. So that's been the thing. Like people want, you know, they want like trendy looking glasses so they're not gonna look like nerd glasses. [00:41:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. It's funny because on one hand, like I walk around with a cane sometimes I have a braille display or something strapped to me that, you know, looks obviously blind or like I've walked around with a guide dog. But if I can have one more thing that just looks like a normal, everyday thing that someone carries. [00:41:51] Speaker A: So I think the Google glasses glasses or whatever, they're gonna, I'm gonna call them Gemini glasses. [00:41:56] Speaker B: Yes. [00:41:56] Speaker A: I think those are going to be potentially really cool. Gemini is pretty awesome. [00:42:01] Speaker B: Braille note evolved. [00:42:05] Speaker A: Yes. Also looking forward to Braille note evolve. That is something that like, I really. [00:42:11] Speaker B: Want to see one. It's. This needed to be a long time coming. [00:42:16] Speaker A: Yeah, I get that people, I don't want to say people don't get it, but I, I think people don't get it. Like, I know there's been a lot of, like these companies don't know what we want. It's like. No, no, no. This, this is what you've wanted actually for a very long time. [00:42:36] Speaker B: Because like, on one hand it is a computer. [00:42:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:39] Speaker B: On another, if you need to transfer those skills over to a different computer, it sounds like it's going to make that task potentially a lot easier. [00:42:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm more interested in a QWERTY version. I like my keyboard, but yeah, you'll have transferable skills and that's kind of the big thing. [00:43:01] Speaker B: And it will work, you know, in some way, shape or form with a lot of mainstream programs. Sure. I'll be interested to see how that actually all works together. And you know, can I open Microsoft Word and have braille? [00:43:18] Speaker A: Well, yeah, sure. I don't see any reason why you wouldn't. Because everything is done. I would say keysoft is probably like an abstract abstraction layer over some stuff. But I mean, it is just a computer. That's all it is. And that sounds cheap. In a way, like, I sound like I'm cheapening it, but really that's what you want though. You want a device that's got everything built in, that runs all the things that you want and just works like you'll actually be able to do normal tasks on it like a normal human. [00:43:58] Speaker B: And hopefully because it's a Windows machine, if you take it into a school or a workplace, it will be a little more. [00:44:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:08] Speaker B: Ready. Reticent to. [00:44:10] Speaker A: Less reticent. Yeah. [00:44:11] Speaker B: Less reticent to. Yeah, yeah. [00:44:13] Speaker A: I mean it'll just, it'll just work. And that's, I think when you build something, I don't know, my, my thing has always been when I'm building a thing, it just needs to work. And, and that's. I think we talk a lot about what is your philosophy? Like what is the design philosophy. And I think the most simplest, basic, straightforward design philosophy is just needs to work. At the end of the day, it just needs to function and it needs to do all the things that people needed to do. [00:44:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean I used to use a Braille note Apex back in the day and I can't even imagine trying. [00:44:50] Speaker A: I used to use the original Braille note. I mean I had the og. [00:44:55] Speaker B: I can't imagine trying to go to work and say, hey, can you put this on the Internet for me? In fact, when I was in college, I couldn't even get my Braille note on the network there because it was captive. So like I used it for notes in class and could kind of use it as a braille display, but that was about as far as I could go with that. And to think now you have these mainstream technologies going into these products. [00:45:24] Speaker A: Yep. And I think one of the things that, and I'm, I'm not. I mean this is not even a company specific thing, so I'm not going to even mention a company's name because it's not important. But like one of the chief complaints about a lot of this proprietary tech is that it's always behind the eight ball when it comes to, well, what radios does it have in it? [00:45:50] Speaker B: What, what are the specs? [00:45:51] Speaker A: What's the processor? [00:45:53] Speaker B: So like what OS is it running? [00:45:56] Speaker A: Yeah, like, oh, you have Bluetooth 3. That's great. We're up to 5. Like that's stuff that people, we don't see these things get future proofs very well. And if you know anything about technology is, that's technology is ever evolving. And so the thing that you bought three years ago is not the top of the line anymore. And so the rule of thumb, and I think the rule that you should follow when you're designing and developing and it's a hard rule to follow because things, you know, we, we have such great advances, but whatever you sell should be relevant for five years. So I should be able to buy it and it should still be good five years from now. Now, obviously, if I buy it four years after you've released it, yeah, it might be a problem. [00:46:46] Speaker B: Limits the shelf life a little bit. [00:46:48] Speaker A: But I feel like, yeah, I, I feel like it should still, you know, just work and that's what we want. So. [00:46:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:59] Speaker A: But I'm excited for the evolve. I want to see one. I'm. I'm very intrigued to look at one. I've got some really interesting technical questions that I'd love to have answered. But like, it's just gonna work. That's what's cool, is it's, it's just going to work and, and that's what you want. And so I guess it ships with nvda, which makes sense. But they've already said, hey, you want to put Jaws on it? That's cool. They didn't say, actually. So what the statement was was we ship with nvda, but it will run any Windows screen reader. And it's like, okay, well, you're either going to run NVDA or Jaws. [00:47:38] Speaker B: I mean, you might run narrator. [00:47:41] Speaker A: No, no, no. You're not going to run narrator. [00:47:47] Speaker B: Theoretically, could. [00:47:48] Speaker A: I mean. Yeah. You're just not gonna do it. I will be interested though, to see. Because of, of some things like how it works. I don't know. Like, I'm so intrigued. I really am. Like, I'm so intrigued by it. [00:48:05] Speaker B: Yeah. If anyone ends up getting one, once they're out and about, bring it over. [00:48:11] Speaker A: We'd love to see it. [00:48:11] Speaker B: Tell us about it. [00:48:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:13] Speaker B: Other than that, I mean, personally, like, my life's pretty boring. Yeah. Looking forward to a possible St. Louis trip in July. Other than that, really, how do you. [00:48:26] Speaker A: Feel about having the house to yourself for a couple days next week? [00:48:29] Speaker B: Weird. I don't know if I like it. [00:48:33] Speaker A: Yeah. What are you going to do with no snoring for three days? [00:48:37] Speaker B: I don't know. Cuz it'll be the first time in a while because. Yeah. It wasn't too long after Jan went to live with her retirement folks that we moved in together. [00:48:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:54] Speaker B: Is that. That dog could snore. Oh my gosh. [00:48:56] Speaker A: There. We don't have audio, unfortunately, but apparently we would snore together. And like, we would alternate snores. [00:49:05] Speaker B: Yes. But every time I went to record, Jan somehow could sense what I was doing and would stop. [00:49:12] Speaker A: Yep. [00:49:13] Speaker B: And kind of wake up. [00:49:15] Speaker A: Yeah. I would snore, she would snore. And we would just, like, have alternating snores. [00:49:20] Speaker B: Yes. So other than that. Yeah. Don't really know what else. I mean, we'll have an anniversary in September. That'll be cool. [00:49:29] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. That's pretty cool. [00:49:33] Speaker B: And probably more big. Easy to go eat this year. [00:49:36] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, honestly, like, I can't say, like, that this is the year of, like, major no stuff. I think it would be nice if just 26 was a chill year. I think. I think we both would appreciate. [00:49:47] Speaker B: Yeah, there's. We've had enough excitement for a while in these last. 24 was rough, 25 was good, but it was packed. [00:49:59] Speaker A: Yeah. Just have 26 be a chillier. I think St. Louis will be cool. I'm really looking forward to reconnecting with a lot of people that I haven't seen in a long time. And, hey, meeting some new people, you know, I mean, that will be really cool. And I'm. I'm looking forward to getting down there. I think we're only gonna go for part of the time, but it'll be cool to go hang out. [00:50:27] Speaker B: And they're not doing this one during a holiday, so no travel. [00:50:30] Speaker A: They're doing this at the end of July, which is different. [00:50:34] Speaker B: But I'm glad I. I actually like that because I think flights will be a lot cheaper. [00:50:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, we'll have. We'll have to transfer, so. [00:50:43] Speaker B: Oh, yes. [00:50:44] Speaker A: No more Oklahoma City to St. Louis. We'll have to transfer in Dallas or something. [00:50:51] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [00:50:52] Speaker A: Oh, boy. Well, at least it'll be love field, so it'll be, you know, it'll be easy. [00:50:57] Speaker B: That'll be a short flight in. [00:50:59] Speaker A: Okay. From here, so I don't know. I guess that's all we really have. But what do you have? What would you like to talk about? What. What's going on in your world? Leave us a comment if you're watching on YouTube, and if you're not, then I don't want to tell you. Go watch it on YouTube and leave a comment there. [00:51:16] Speaker B: Or respond to. There'll probably be a Mastodon post, right? [00:51:21] Speaker A: Yeah, but I don't think anyone looks at it on Mastodon. [00:51:24] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:51:25] Speaker A: I don't post it on Twitter. I don't post it on Facebook. I don't post it on Tumblr or even still around. I Don't actually know. Is. Is Pinterest still around? [00:51:38] Speaker B: I think Pinterest is so the gram, of course. [00:51:41] Speaker A: Yep. [00:51:42] Speaker B: It's still out there. [00:51:45] Speaker A: You know, I think someone should create a drug delivery service and call it Instagram. [00:51:52] Speaker B: They would just have to spell it different. [00:51:56] Speaker A: I don't care. Because you're already doing something illegal, but you have to deliver like hard drugs. [00:52:02] Speaker B: Because, you know, I was gonna say depending on what state you're in, certain. [00:52:07] Speaker A: No, no, no, no. Because that would be. No, no, no. You gotta, like. [00:52:11] Speaker B: I mean, I guess they've got Gopuff. Okay, we are toeing the line. [00:52:19] Speaker A: I'm just saying, I think, you know, Instagram, you know, it's, you know, Insta space Instagram. Like, you know, the 30 minute guarantee, you know. [00:52:32] Speaker B: Okay, I think we have let this go on long enough. [00:52:35] Speaker A: I'm just saying, I. I think it's a good idea, but it's not. I don't know. [00:52:40] Speaker B: Drugs are bad. [00:52:41] Speaker A: Drugs are bad. Okay, don't do drugs. Listen, drugs ruin people's lives and not just your own. They'll ruin the people's lives around you. Don't do drugs. [00:52:50] Speaker B: Drugs are bad. Okay, this. [00:52:52] Speaker A: This message brought to you by Liam who thinks drugs are bad. Like, just don't. Don't tell them. I don't understand that. Like, that's, that's the thing. Like, I just took off on a tangent for a minute. I. I don't understand how someone goes, you know what sounds like a really great idea? Altering my body in like that way with like a substance. And, And I'm. [00:53:17] Speaker B: Because generally when that happens, I, I can't say it's everyone's experience again, you know, don't want to like say that my experience is someone else's or anything like that, but it seems like anyone that I've known or been around or heard about who has, they don't feel very good about themselves. There's something that is hurting them in their life or hurting themselves. Or they have like a pain issue, a health issue. There's something that they are trying to get away from. [00:53:57] Speaker A: No, it makes sense. I just, it. I mean, alcohol, we do the same thing with alcohol, right? Like you have a beer and. And you really never stop to go, why am I putting this in my body? But we do it. I don't know. And, And I'm sure there's like a whole ethical whatever that we could get into, but that's boring. And, and that's not fun. Here on 404. Site not found because we don't like to talk about serious things. We like to talk about like washing machines and stuff like that. [00:54:33] Speaker B: And security systems. [00:54:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Which. Oh, we switched to Ring. [00:54:37] Speaker B: We have fully made the changeover. [00:54:39] Speaker A: I don't think we've recorded since we. [00:54:43] Speaker B: Were starting to set it up, but we didn't. [00:54:46] Speaker A: Did we record since Thanksgiving? What did we do for the Jan episode? [00:54:53] Speaker B: I think that was right before we left. [00:54:56] Speaker A: Yeah. So we ended up. Yeah, we started looking at Ring and ended up like, going full into it. And I gotta say, like, ring is cool. I was on the fence. [00:55:06] Speaker B: The AI video description that it can do when the camera picks something up is awesome. [00:55:12] Speaker A: I think that is the big feature right there. I think that made it worth it for us because, like, someone will be at the door and it'll be like, we've actually had it say, like an Amazon delivery person is delivering a package. [00:55:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:24] Speaker A: Or a FedEx delivery person. We had the one time I used. [00:55:26] Speaker B: To have a problem of the camera would go off at 4 in the morning, 5 in the morning. I would jolt away, go, oh, my God, what's going on out there? Why is my camera going? [00:55:37] Speaker A: I don't know if we discussed this in the last episode. Did we discuss the. [00:55:42] Speaker B: The process? Oh, the. The person. [00:55:44] Speaker A: Person run through a yard. [00:55:46] Speaker B: I don't know if we did or not, but yeah, we had someone in our backyard one time. [00:55:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:51] Speaker B: And then after that, yeah, it was like, oh, my gosh, why is the camera going off? It's four in the morning. And with our old system, though, it was good for what it was. I'm not trying to bash Simple Safe. I think they've. [00:56:03] Speaker A: I don't care. [00:56:04] Speaker B: I think they've got a good. [00:56:04] Speaker A: They're not listening, but listen, I'm just gonna be honest. It just. [00:56:08] Speaker B: Well, like six months ago, we did a. Look how great Simple Safe is, you guys. [00:56:12] Speaker A: Look, I actually. I think for a lot of things, it's really good. The problem with Simplisafe was that, like, when we would plug the cameras and they wouldn't function as they were supposed to, so I would have to climb up and pull the batteries out and recharge them. And that got really old. [00:56:30] Speaker B: But another thing was it would get video and it didn't really have a way to tell you what was in it. So there was one time I woke up at four in the morning because camera went off and I had it, you know, the notification set to bypass do not disturb in case there was ever a problem. Like, oh, my God, why is it going off? So now I gotta go in Simplisafe, find the video, download it, run it through pixiebot, and wait all this time to see, and it was just somebody walking their dog. [00:56:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Now it'll just pop up and be like, you know, Ring, like, person is walking on the sidewalk with a black dog. [00:57:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:04] Speaker A: And you're just like, okay, they can. [00:57:06] Speaker B: Just roll over and go back to sleep. [00:57:07] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [00:57:09] Speaker B: Don't think anything of it. Whereas before, now I've gone through this entire process and in order to do that, I've woken up, my brain's awake, and I can't go back to sleep. And I don't start work until 9. That makes for a very long day. [00:57:24] Speaker A: And Ring has more stuff. They have all different types of cameras. They have the mailbox sensor, which is amazing. [00:57:32] Speaker B: Oh, love the mailbox sensor. [00:57:34] Speaker A: So when someone opens the mailbox, it pings. Pings us and goes, hey. [00:57:38] Speaker B: So no more guessing if the mail showed up. [00:57:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Now it tells us. They've got kind of some more features that I think were cool, like with external doors and internal doors. And I just. I like it. My only downside is we don't get key fobs anymore. And I really want key fobs, but. [00:57:58] Speaker B: Like, don't have the panic button. [00:58:00] Speaker A: No, but that's fine. We never needed it. [00:58:06] Speaker B: Thank goodness. [00:58:07] Speaker A: But yeah, I mean, by and large, I'm really liking. [00:58:10] Speaker B: And it does all integrate with Amazon. Smart speaker. [00:58:14] Speaker A: Yes. So you can actually disarm with your voice, which is probably not the most. [00:58:20] Speaker B: Secure thing in the universe, but you set a pin. Yeah, but I can do something like, you know, smart speaker, answer front door. [00:58:29] Speaker A: And then start talking. [00:58:31] Speaker B: Shut off everyone's speakers. [00:58:34] Speaker A: Yep. But yeah, we can directly answer, you know, we can directly address the cameras, which is not a thing you could do. Simple, safe. [00:58:44] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, you could through your phone, but. [00:58:46] Speaker A: But you had to open the app, tap on the camera. It was just not fun. I. I just. It was not a great time. So very happy with Ring. I also feel like for the same price, we get more. Yeah. Ah, we did that. So, yeah, I mean, I have nothing. Again, simple to say. If, if you are looking for a security system, I would recommend them because of the fact I think it's easier to set up. [00:59:18] Speaker B: Yes. Ring. You have to scan these QR codes and. [00:59:22] Speaker A: And you gotta kind of fiddle with it. It' as smooth. So if you go back to our episode last June, there was a really cool episode we did. And I thought that, like, it really showed you how simple this Thing was to set up. [00:59:39] Speaker B: Yeah. You ran me, you handed me one of the components and we're like, okay, push this button. And it found it and went, okay, look here. [00:59:48] Speaker A: Ring is not as simple. It's kind of kludgy, to be honest. [00:59:52] Speaker B: The devices have QR codes on them that you have to find. [00:59:55] Speaker A: Oh, it's not even the QR code that's the problem. The problem is you connect it, you go into the app, it doesn't realize it's been connected. So then you gotta fiddle with it and go through a whole thing where you rescan the code. [01:00:08] Speaker B: And then one kind of downer is. So with simple safe, Liam could add me as like a user and it basically treated me like a co owner. [01:00:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:19] Speaker B: I could change settings on the devices. I could. I had pretty much all the same power that he did, I think, except for like, you know, removing access or I think there might have been like one thing. I couldn't. Like, I couldn't remove a sensor or something, I think. But I could do all the things on here. I can arm and disarm the system. That's about it. [01:00:43] Speaker A: Yep. [01:00:44] Speaker B: I can't, you know, change the sound behavior on any of the accessories. I can't. There's something else I feel like I did with. [01:00:59] Speaker A: I will say one, one thing I do like, oh, I just had it and I lost it. But there was. There was something. [01:01:11] Speaker B: One kind of cool thing is that you can. You can have different sounds for your door sensors. [01:01:19] Speaker A: It won't talk, though, which I kind of like. They won't say like, front door open. There was something that I, I liked and I. Oh, they're good about adding new features. So they just rolled a beta out of like face facial recognition where like, you can train it so that it'll be like, Liam is at the front door or Alyssa's at the front door. [01:01:41] Speaker B: Or like Randall's at the front door. And we just comes over. [01:01:45] Speaker A: We just got that in the last month. So they're continually improving it. And I'm not saying that Simplisafe isn't. But it's a slower Ring is making more noticeable. And I mean, ring, listen, Ring's got Amazon behind them. [01:02:01] Speaker B: So, like, they got very household name, they got money. [01:02:05] Speaker A: I don't think SimpliSafe has as much capital or access to ready capital. [01:02:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, and the ring keypad does have buttons, so that is a good. [01:02:19] Speaker A: I think we're. Simplisafe probably wins is. I think they have a better monitoring system. Like, I should say Center. I don't know where they're. I'm not fully clued on where their center is located. But like I, I know Simp, like built their own and it's like a big old call center and it's like in Richmond or something. Oh, there's another city. Richmond, Virginia and Richmond, Indiana and Richmond, Kentucky. [01:02:53] Speaker B: Yes. We were having this discussion about states. [01:02:56] Speaker A: That share city names. [01:02:57] Speaker B: So like you have Springfields in like. [01:02:59] Speaker A: Every state, but you have like Denver, Colorado. What was the Denver that you. [01:03:02] Speaker B: North Carolina. [01:03:03] Speaker A: Denver, North Carolina. So we were thinking about states that have cities that are like major or well known city names. But like, you know, they're in different states. So. You know, another good one is Bowling Green, Kentucky and Bowling Green, Missouri. Trying to think of like Oklahoma's got anything that like I can't think of anything on the top of my head but. [01:03:34] Speaker B: Well, like most people think of Lincoln, Nebraska. There is also a Lincoln, Illinois. Yeah, it's a little itty bitty tiny town. Yeah. [01:03:43] Speaker A: Lots. Milwaukee, Wisconsin and Milwaukee, Oregon. And the Milwaukee, Oregon or. Yeah, spelled different. [01:03:50] Speaker B: And then of course you got the two Portlands. [01:03:52] Speaker A: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Portland, Maine. Portland, Oregon. [01:03:59] Speaker B: Yep. [01:04:01] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm trying to think there's any other. If you know of any of these two, write them in. I actually would be really curious to see. Oh, Las Vegas, Nevada. Las Vegas, New Mexico. And what's great is that you can actually ride the Amtrak to Las Vegas, New Mexico. And so I'm sure somebody has gone, dude, I could go to Vegas. And then they've like taken the train. [01:04:23] Speaker B: And be like, oh, they were in for a surprise. [01:04:25] Speaker A: Wait a minute. Ah, wait a moment. [01:04:28] Speaker B: This doesn't look right. [01:04:30] Speaker A: We could also talk about cities that have weird or offbeat names, I. E. Surprise. Arizona. Truth or Consequences, New Mexico. [01:04:40] Speaker B: Santa Claus, Indiana. [01:04:41] Speaker A: Santa Claus, Indiana. Hell, Michigan. Yeah. I mean. [01:04:52] Speaker B: Yep. Creativity is the spice of life. [01:04:55] Speaker A: Licking, Missouri. [01:04:58] Speaker B: Flippin, Arkansas. [01:04:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:03] Speaker B: I actually knew somebody that before they came to school was in Flippin. [01:05:10] Speaker A: Flippin. [01:05:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Thought that was pretty awesome. And she had the personality for it too. [01:05:18] Speaker A: And I'm just gonna end this episode by pointing out Intercourse, Pennsylvania and saying that this has been another episode of 404. Sight Not Found. We'll see you when we see you. [01:05:33] Speaker B: Goodbye. [01:05:35] Speaker A: Goodbye.